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	<title>Comments on: The Socialist Phenomenon</title>
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		<title>By: beaglescout</title>
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		<description>Dave, Thanks. You know Greek far better than I. To me, &quot;it&#039;s greek to me&quot; is more than a saying: It&#039;s reality. 

However, I&#039;m not sure that the translation you point out is preferable. For whether the connotation of congress to which you refer is the reproductive or the 9% approval one, both are sharp as needles in context. And assemblywoman has mechanical connotations as well. Try to imagine a state driven by a LEGO philosophy.

The funny thing that I noticed was that Aristophanes states that such a totalitarian socialist state was brought into being by a woman who usurped the man&#039;s role as lawmaker. Just to defend myself against charges of misogyny, I&#039;m not claiming this as my own POV, but as the message of the play. To carry it further, does the Nanny State ring any bells? It may be that the American experience reinforces the message of the play.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave, Thanks. You know Greek far better than I. To me, &#8220;it&#8217;s greek to me&#8221; is more than a saying: It&#8217;s reality. </p>
<p>However, I&#8217;m not sure that the translation you point out is preferable. For whether the connotation of congress to which you refer is the reproductive or the 9% approval one, both are sharp as needles in context. And assemblywoman has mechanical connotations as well. Try to imagine a state driven by a LEGO philosophy.</p>
<p>The funny thing that I noticed was that Aristophanes states that such a totalitarian socialist state was brought into being by a woman who usurped the man&#8217;s role as lawmaker. Just to defend myself against charges of misogyny, I&#8217;m not claiming this as my own POV, but as the message of the play. To carry it further, does the Nanny State ring any bells? It may be that the American experience reinforces the message of the play.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 11:31:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, no! Please! Let&#039;s not have any of that &quot;free markets, equal opportunity for all, the acknowledgment of God-given human right&quot; stuff! We all belong on The Government&#039;s Plantation, working to fulfill the Mass Media Podpeople Hivemind&#039;s view of The End of Class Warfare (and the government by the elite).

Aristophanes&#039; play presents a view that is blind to the effects of slavery, of course, except as a means of freeing slave&lt;i&gt;owners&lt;/i&gt; from work. Some dark humor, from a modern perspective, in Praxagora&#039;s proposal to pool all the women for any man to &quot;use&quot; in that she&#039;s not all that far from the morality of modern &lt;i&gt;soi disant&lt;/i&gt; feministas who seek to simply make all women willing to be freer with sex than a street walker. &lt;i&gt;Plus ça change&lt;/i&gt; and all that, eh?

(BTW, by &quot;The Congresswomen&quot; you mean, &quot;Ἐκκλησιάζουσαι&quot; don&#039;t you? &quot;congresswomen&quot; might be an acceptable translation, but given the connotation we have for the word &quot;congress&quot; today, &quot;Assemblywomen&quot; might be better, closer to the play in fact.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, no! Please! Let&#8217;s not have any of that &#8220;free markets, equal opportunity for all, the acknowledgment of God-given human right&#8221; stuff! We all belong on The Government&#8217;s Plantation, working to fulfill the Mass Media Podpeople Hivemind&#8217;s view of The End of Class Warfare (and the government by the elite).</p>
<p>Aristophanes&#8217; play presents a view that is blind to the effects of slavery, of course, except as a means of freeing slave<i>owners</i> from work. Some dark humor, from a modern perspective, in Praxagora&#8217;s proposal to pool all the women for any man to &#8220;use&#8221; in that she&#8217;s not all that far from the morality of modern <i>soi disant</i> feministas who seek to simply make all women willing to be freer with sex than a street walker. <i>Plus ça change</i> and all that, eh?</p>
<p>(BTW, by &#8220;The Congresswomen&#8221; you mean, &#8220;Ἐκκλησιάζουσαι&#8221; don&#8217;t you? &#8220;congresswomen&#8221; might be an acceptable translation, but given the connotation we have for the word &#8220;congress&#8221; today, &#8220;Assemblywomen&#8221; might be better, closer to the play in fact.)</p>
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